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Forest fire in California

Postby Paris » 01 Sep 2013, 18:07

Take a look out the cockpit window of a C-130 Hercules flying over the huge forest fire near and in Yosemite National Park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_eGiGG1B-Q&sns=em

The cause of the blaze has yet to be determined, but an illegal marijuana-growing operation may have been involved. "We don't know the exact cause," said Todd McNeal, fire chief in a nearby town. "But it is highly suspect that there might have been some sort of illicit grove... a marijuana-grow-type thing. We know it's human caused. There was no lightning in the area."
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 01 Sep 2013, 18:18

Fantastic photography,
an illegal marijuana-growing operation ..
That's awful.
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Ice.Maiden » 01 Sep 2013, 18:23

Not as bad as the fires. : (
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 02 Sep 2013, 00:05

I'm sorry I take great umbrage with that lazy comment,
the fire was probably started by those DOPES...
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Paris » 02 Sep 2013, 00:12

Go stand in the corner for that one, Tomsk! :grin:
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 02 Sep 2013, 00:23

gladly...
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby kg » 10 Sep 2013, 22:21


In this case, I agree with Tomsk.

"The cause of the blaze has yet to be determined, but an illegal marijuana-growing operation may have been involved. "We don't know the exact cause," said Todd McNeal, fire chief in a nearby town.


If you don't know the exact cause, then don't assign blame. It could have been campers, or kids playing with matches...since no one knows the exact cause, one could as easily blame it on those scenarios. Statements like that are nothing short of rabble rousing through unverifiable conjecture.
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Ice.Maiden » 11 Sep 2013, 05:40

I read somewhere that Todd McNeal was maybe right, Glenn. Someone growing illegal cannabis started the fire - by accident or otherwise - but I've heard nothing more to substantiate that. Tomsk said it was that in the first place. I say it doesn't matter how the things started. The fires destroyed natural habitat and wildlife, and it could've resulted in loss of human life.
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 11 Sep 2013, 17:53

Constant cannabis use creates mental health problems...........
It just makes me angry............
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Ice.Maiden » 11 Sep 2013, 19:36

I know, I know. I'm a conservationist, and any fire which's carelessly or deliberately started in forests makes ME angry - for the reasons I stated. I don't care if there are cannabis farms there, because it's a separate issue.
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 12 Sep 2013, 18:24

not if it was them starting the fire,
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Ice.Maiden » 12 Sep 2013, 18:29

Which I've included in the above post.

All I'm saying is that if humans were at fault, whether by accident or design, it damaged the forest and wildlife. I'm glad that there were no human casualties as far as I know, but the fact that there were illegal cannabis farms there wasn't my point.
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 13 Sep 2013, 11:57

well it is mine..
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Ice.Maiden » 13 Sep 2013, 14:37

Fair comment Tomsk. We could make that another subject, but we all know that these things exist, and the legal growing of cannabis's proved to be beneficial in the medical world.
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 14 Sep 2013, 19:31

Hemp?
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Ice.Maiden » 18 Sep 2013, 16:16

We use hemp for ropes, material, making bags, in cooking oil, using its seeds in various products - it's different from the cannabis which's used for medicinal or recreational purposes, but you can't just make assumptions that the forest fires were started by people farming it. You might as well proportion it to holidaymakers camping in the the forest then. I would've thought that any (illegal) cannabis growers'd be excessively careful about not starting accidental fires which'd alert authorities to where they were?
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 18 Sep 2013, 16:30

it is beneficial for people with MS so I hear..
It just annoys me that over usage of cannabis turns people into vegetables..
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Ice.Maiden » 18 Sep 2013, 17:35

Oh it doesn't, sausage. When people're affected to that extent by drugs, there's more than cannabis being taken, and sometimes these people have an alcohol dependency as well. It's very sad when they get hooked on substances which can alter their mental and physical state, but I've never known smoking spliffs on their own to turn people into "vegetables". In fact, some very learned people've used the "weed", and it acts as a relaxant and painkiller.
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Tomsk » 30 Sep 2013, 08:24

I disagree,
Humph!
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Re: Forest fire in California

Postby Ice.Maiden » 30 Sep 2013, 14:44

Tomsk ... Archie ... what are your objections? Is it any worse than smoking tobacco which you buy in shops? Surely that's worse, with all the toxic additives, and is it any worse than drinking alcohol, which wrecks the liver and all internal organs?

I don't do drugs to enhance, mellow or liven me up, but neither do I advocate outlawing it. I appreciate your opinions, but I just wondered what made you so vehemently against?

I think it'd be totally wrong to get behind the wheel of a car if someone was stoned, or, in the case of strong skunk for someone to be in charge of children, because that one CAN affect adversely, but it's up to the individual as to whether they fancy a smoke at the end of a long day, surely?
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