10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer

[threenorns]

that's what i did with the older two - we went through all the major religions and nik wound up muslim while caiti went buddhist.

now, however, she says she's atheist although if you talk to her... she's buddhist to the bone, lol.

[AJRC]

I did the same with my eldest. I didn't tell him about any religions until i thought he was old enough to make the choice himself. Then he was taught all about all the major religions, the history, the good points and bad points and told that he could believe anything he wanted, it was his choice. We haven't talked about it for a while but last time we did he didn't really believe in anything, except girls. He's 18, he's a walking hormone at the minute.

I never forced my beliefs on him, nor will i ever do so. Just as my parents gave me the choice, it's his choice.

Both your eldest children's choices are great, it goes to show that without indoctrination children can choose for themselves what religion they want to believe in. I see it too many times when children are brainwashed from a very early age to believe exactly what their parents believe. To me that's wrong.

I'll do to Jack exactly what i've done with Lewis, he'll have the choice. It's the right way.

Mind you if he starts with all that Scientology shite he'll get a slap.

[pilvikki]

Mind you if he starts with all that Scientology shite he'll get a slap.

nik's given up the muslim idea as well...

[Silke]

if you get the choice - you probably would choose none. Why? because all of them have strong points, but all have also weak points... so you can dismiss all if you so choose.

[threenorns]

Mind you if he starts with all that Scientology shite he'll get a slap.

nik's given up the muslim idea as well...

really!?? shame - she worked so hard for it. last she told me, she'd just given up on the hijab because the rednecks in her part of the country were getting downright dangerous about it.

so much for democracy and individual rights and freedoms.

caitlin's study of scientology took place in london, england:

The guys at Core were totally right when they said it was easy to tell
when I'm bored. I think my brain decides to do really dumb things just
to entertain itself. I swear!

So I'm sitting in Leisure Square watching this free show of Les
Miserables. They had this showing of the theatre from this big TV and
giant speakers everywhere. I dunno why but there's a ton of pigeons on
this dumb building and half the screen is covered with their asses. I
was having a hard enough time following this play anyway so I ran down
to the Chinese grocer like five seconds down the road and grabbed a
bag of dry breadcrumbs. I figured I could use them to get'em off the
screen.
Little did I know that these birds have a radar for breadcrumbs so not
only did the bastards from the building come down but so did a huge
flock that had been perched only god knows where around the area. I
only had a few in my hand and around my feet and they were all eyeing
my hand, I think they were gonna try and take them from me. Hell no! I
thought for sure they'de bite me or something so I freaked out and
threw the whole bag in front of me and ran. Last thing I saw was an
enormous amount of pigeons flocking...the road. I had no idea at the
time I was standing in front of a road, so I suppose me running away
was a good thing. I didn't get to take any pictures though I don't
think it would've been worth being approached by a cop or
something...ok it was totally hilarious I'm not gonna lie. But like,
feed the birds man! Toppins a bag!

The second part was awesome and kinda boring too. I was walking along
the pier and noticed a really pretty building which ended up being the
Scientology church. Oh man these guys had this huge church and stuff I
HAD to go in for a closer look. So I went in and it was even nicer on
the inside, having been built only two years ago. This guy who was
suppose to show me around the place asked me if I wanted to join the
surman/serman/whatever, so I did. The priest lady ended up giving me
the tour cause she was so nice but the whole illusion of them being
wickedly friendly and having seemingly good morals was veeeeeeeeery
easily demolished when they started showing me the whole process new
members have to take. Not only do you pay to be part of this church,
the basically make up problems for you to have with the E-meter and
ask you to pay to fix'em! I don't even think this lady fully
understood what was going on. Apparently the E-meter completes the
circuit of enegery using two rods attached to the meter and reads
electrical pulses given off whenever large amounts of 'mass', in the
form of negative thoughts, passes the brain. Cause everyone knows
negative thoughts weigh more than regular thoughts. So they ask you
'do you have a negative?'...and this is suppose to determine whether
you're happy or not and is the MOST generalized question ever
conceived by man. I guess most people don't understand that you NEED
to have bad things in your life in some form.

But nooooo, not only do these people get rid of everything bad in your
life, they also have a gym for purifying your body and eliminating
toxins that cloud the mind. These people are a bunch of delusional
hippies! I swear! They were created just as the hippy era was rising
and everything. Lol, but they loved me yes they did. I was so
interested in joining because I'm a college student majoring in world
religions and my boyfriend is a recovering drug addict who was saved
by the church two years ago. Lol, I almost felt bad, but then I
remembered where I was.

[AJRC]

OMG, hilarity. Loved that letter.

Any religion that attracts celebrities should be given a wide birth, same with Kabala. And any religion that asks you to pay to join is a no go, it's capitalism gone crazy. What is it with Scientology, the more money you have the more faith you have?

I'd love it if they ever asked me if i had a negative. I'd say yes, your religion is shit and if i wanted to find out about your Xenu bullshit i'd look it up for free on the internet. Maybe that much negativity would blow up their e-meter.

[pilvikki]

an e-meter?




caitie is funny! she actually has no idea that she is, which makes it even better.

[threenorns]

i saw that e-meter. you know what it is?

seriously: it's a bloody hand-held body fat analyzer! an impedance meter - whatever it's called!

[pilvikki]

a fat-o-meter!

[threenorns]

maybe to check how thick-headed the potential victim is?

[pilvikki]

ok, now i see the connection.

[-kg-]

a fat-o-meter!

Yep, they're included in some models of Weight Watchers Bathroom Scales. I even have one of these types of scales (and wish I'd never bought it...it's overly complex to use when all you want to do is see what you weigh).

It uses some type of sensors on the scale unit itself. You have to be bare-footed (no socks, even) for it to work. I bought it because I wanted an accurate, digital scale, but I think I could have got one without all those features and been a lot happier.

[pilvikki]

our scale is rude enough on it's own. aka accurate...

so... do the scientologists want fat or skinny people?

[-kg-]

I must remember in what forum these threads are in!

To be on topic:

Any religion that attracts celebrities should be given a wide birth, same with Kabala. And any religion that asks you to pay to join is a no go, it's capitalism gone crazy. What is it with Scientology, the more money you have the more faith you have?

Isn't this the same in virtually all religions? It seems that God isn't free, no matter what religion you prescribe to. While mostly these contributions are to go to "feeding and clothing the poor," God still demands "payment," at least in the Old Testament, commanding his followers to sacrifice animals to him.

They're all the same; it's just that in recent years God has become more "capitalistic."

our scale is rude enough on it's own. aka accurate...

So it's a talking scale then? When you step on, does it say, "ONE - AT - A - TIME - PLEASE....ONE - AT - A - TIME - PLEASE...."?



OK, I know, I know....back to my room.

[pilvikki]

[AJRC]

it's a bloody hand-held body fat analyzer!

Is this why scientology is most popular in America. I'm just kidding.

I agree, -kg-, every god asks for some sort of payment. I really laugh at the TV evangelists though, we get something called the "god channel" on satellite and it comes from all corners of the globe. I only tune in if i'm flicking and there's a good TV evangelist on. They crack me up. Telling the naive and ignorant that god with heal their sickness or that god will make them rich, and all they have to do is call a number and pledge some money. The only people getting rich out of this is the TV evangelists.

[Flawless]

Anyone see the episode of South Park when the Scientologists think Stan is the reincarnate of the founder of Scientology

[pilvikki]

no, but it sounds funny!

[AJRC]

Oh yes i watched it, hilarious. Didn't high wack job Tom Cruise try to ban it?