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Postby pilvikki » 04 Jan 2013, 03:27

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Re: spectacular photos

Postby Ice.Maiden » 04 Jan 2013, 07:18

They're some of the most incredible and poignant I've ever seen.
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Postby Tomsk » 04 Jan 2013, 13:16

thank you Vikki ...
they are beautiful..
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Postby pilvikki » 05 Jan 2013, 10:40


they're fantastic, never realized there were such good ones from so long ago...
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Postby Ice.Maiden » 05 Jan 2013, 11:52

They ARE fantastic. How did you come across them?
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Postby pilvikki » 05 Jan 2013, 14:02


the usual; email. :lol:

mind you, they are not entirely accurate, as a friend pointed out... a colour photo from russia where a peasant is admiring his new wiring? when they russians didn't even get electricity until the 30's or so...

i almost feel like checking the rest, but not quite.

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still, fabulous artwork. just wish they'd have their facts straight....
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Postby Ice.Maiden » 06 Jan 2013, 12:16

Maybe colour was added to such photos at a later date? The ones I saw of my friend's relatives in Siberia were those old sepia things - and not very good either, but it gave me an insight into how the peasants lived. An elderly relative literally has a dress made of sacking cloth, which was tied in at the waist with a piece of thick string, or rope. Fascinating.

The Russians were lucky to've been wired up to electricity in the 1930's. As late as 1929 I think it was, only 10% of residential properties in the UK had it, and even during the war years, many homes were without, because of the expense. Things like electric kettles and irons apparently came to us quite late, and were considered luxuries. A small electric heater cost about £45 - more than today's prices!
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Postby pilvikki » 06 Jan 2013, 14:53


maybe it's due to the winter darkness, but finns were in a hurry to get electricity and in my old neighbourhood hydro was available in 1882. no way any of my backwoods farming ancestors would have been able to afford that though.

funny enough, helsinki didn't get a power plant until 2 yrs later, i'm guessing due to not having any convenient rapids on hand...?
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Postby Ice.Maiden » 06 Jan 2013, 18:22

No idea hun. The Deptford power station in London was opened in 1891, so I assume it was coal powered, the same as the famous Battersea ones in the 30's and 50's. By the sound of things, we were late starters.

Many rural areas didn't get full electricity for years, and even now, certain places can't get piped gas.
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Postby pilvikki » 07 Jan 2013, 07:20


i don't recall of ever seeing gas in finland...?
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Postby Ice.Maiden » 07 Jan 2013, 16:29

What's their main power then - hydro-electric or wood burners?
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Postby pilvikki » 09 Jan 2013, 02:58


hydro and wood... as far as i know.

ok, so i don't know: gas comprised 11% of heating in 2006.
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Re: spectacular photos

Postby Ice.Maiden » 09 Jan 2013, 11:34

Well here, the remote hillside places STILL don't have it. In fact, some of the flat places don't either. A friend in Cornwall relies on an electric fire and plugging oil heaters in.
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Re: spectacular photos

Postby pilvikki » 09 Jan 2013, 16:32


i've had several run ins with gas; both the container and piped in sort, so i'm not at all comfortable with it.

f. ex. i'd been complaining about an off again, on again smell of gas in my room in brampton. it was checked out by the gas co. 3 X, and nothing. well, the leak was finally found last month, right in the corner where my bed was....

luckily nobody smoked in the house... :shock:
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Postby Ice.Maiden » 09 Jan 2013, 17:11

Good grief! You were lucky then weren't you? That could've accounted for poor sleeping patterns, headaches ......

Is it too late to sue them? That was downright dangerous.
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Postby pilvikki » 11 Jan 2013, 04:12


no use trying to sue, but now that you mention it, i always felt crappy in that house and thought it was the endless dust from all the renos. may have contributed, but i'm betting on the gas as a major contribution.

i've seen gas bbq's alight underneath several ours after they'd been turned off. usually this doesn't become apparent until it gets dark.

i've seen a couple shoot up flames of 5'.

and my favourite: sitting outside at our designated smoking area and saying "i can smell gas here"

"don't be silly, i can't smell a thing."

this went on for a while and then, one sunday i got up and called the gas company. sure enough, a good sized leak 2' from our picnic table. :shock:

the gas guys comment "we will never know how many men's last words have been "oh don't be daft, i can't smell anything!" for apparently women are better at picking it up.
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Postby Ice.Maiden » 11 Jan 2013, 05:41

An odourant's added to our North Sea gas, because in the normal way it'd scarcely have any smell at all, which could be dangerous.

Sounds as though your old place could've done with a complete check of the house and mains. It's a wonder you weren't all blown sky high, and yes, I'm sure that your groggy feeling'd come from various leaks. Good job you're away from there really.
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Postby pilvikki » 11 Jan 2013, 07:30


they add the same stuff in n/a. which brings me to my next point: why isn't the odour something anyone can detect? something that burns off easily but is potent enough for even your average beer swilling, smoking guy to not start an argument over?
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Postby Ice.Maiden » 11 Jan 2013, 09:03

I'm like yourself. I can detect a gas smell when others can't. In fact, I've got an acute sense of smell. When I left something in the oven and it was starting to burn, I could smell it from where I'm sitting now. The kitchen door was shut and there's a bit of a traipse down to it. The OH couldn't smell a thing, but I dashed down to find a near cremation! :doh:
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Postby pilvikki » 11 Jan 2013, 16:19


i used to have a super sniffer like yours, but unless i use a nasal spray, it's usually dormant... :(
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